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	<title>Comments on: How Google Detects Paid Text Links Based on Web Site Profiling</title>
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		<title>By: Tech Blog</title>
		<link>http://pocketseo.com/google/110/comment-page-1#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally resonate with the things you have mentioned. First time it was a guess, but as the research is going on, it&#039;s confirming that paid links are the root cause for most of the drop. 
I started two of my blogs few months back and
My one blog got PR 4
and another got PR 3
For the time being I am happy. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally resonate with the things you have mentioned. First time it was a guess, but as the research is going on, it&#8217;s confirming that paid links are the root cause for most of the drop.<br />
I started two of my blogs few months back and<br />
My one blog got PR 4<br />
and another got PR 3<br />
For the time being I am happy. <img src='http://pocketseo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://pocketseo.com/google/110/comment-page-1#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Also, link sellers can get very sloppy. It&#039;s a pain in the butt to review a site for approval; sometimes you just want to approve everything to pad your monthly paid link income.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think that everyone is getting sloppy.  Many (most?) buyers don&#039;t check where their links are ending up.  

Sloppy link buyer: &quot;Here is some money. You have approval to buy me any links on this topic with at least a PageRank of &lt;em&gt;x&lt;/em&gt;&quot;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I also expect Google to err on the side of quality search results (i.e. not on the side of innocent until proven guilty).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if they do that.  Google needs to make sure that they let people konw that they are being penalized, e.g., in the Google Webmaster Tools.  I doubt Google will tell people though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Also, link sellers can get very sloppy. It&#8217;s a pain in the butt to review a site for approval; sometimes you just want to approve everything to pad your monthly paid link income.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I think that everyone is getting sloppy.  Many (most?) buyers don&#8217;t check where their links are ending up.  </p>
<p>Sloppy link buyer: &#8220;Here is some money. You have approval to buy me any links on this topic with at least a PageRank of <em>x</em>&#8220;.</p>
<blockquote><p>I also expect Google to err on the side of quality search results (i.e. not on the side of innocent until proven guilty).</p></blockquote>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if they do that.  Google needs to make sure that they let people konw that they are being penalized, e.g., in the Google Webmaster Tools.  I doubt Google will tell people though.</p>
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		<title>By: Halfdeck</title>
		<link>http://pocketseo.com/google/110/comment-page-1#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Halfdeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To detect anything, like you said, you need to work with a set of signals instead of relying on one signal. A site with an aff link to TLA, for example, has a high probability of selling links, though that signal alone would generate false-positives.

A site with 100% of backlinks pointed at the root is probably owned by a link manipulator, but again, this signal alone would identify good sites like apple.com or ibm.com as link manipulators.

You combine all the signals - then you start to get an idea of the character of a webmaster - which is really all Google needs to know when deciding how to interpret a shady link. 

One detection technique that people seem to be forgetting is this:

1. Look at all the links pointing at xyz.com.
2. Are any of those links obviously paid for? (e.g. listed under &quot;Sponsored Links&quot; or linked from several completely off-topic sites - wedding link on seroundtable, for example)
3. If there&#039;s even one obviously paid links pointing at a site, that categorizes a webmaster as a link buyer.
4. When flipping a coin (e.g. when Google finds a contextual link with laser-targeted anchor text pointing at a site), Google can use that fact to its advantage.

Also, link sellers can get very sloppy. It&#039;s a pain in the butt to review a site for approval; sometimes you just want to approve everything to pad your monthly paid link income. So:

1. Look at all outbound links from site A.
2. What percentage of those links point to sites that are categorized as link buyers? If the percentage is high (more than a few links point to link buyers), then the chance of those links being paid links is high.
3. Look at off-topic links to sites with low authority. An editorial link tends to point to sites with high authority, though not always. 
4. Investigate the link profile of those off-topic sites. Are they link buyers? If yes, then the chance of these off-topic links being paid is high.

It&#039;s a guessing game, trial by link analysis, and I&#039;d expect the accuracy rate to never reach 100%, but I also expect Google to err on the side of quality search results (i.e. not on the side of innocent until proven guilty).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To detect anything, like you said, you need to work with a set of signals instead of relying on one signal. A site with an aff link to TLA, for example, has a high probability of selling links, though that signal alone would generate false-positives.</p>
<p>A site with 100% of backlinks pointed at the root is probably owned by a link manipulator, but again, this signal alone would identify good sites like apple.com or ibm.com as link manipulators.</p>
<p>You combine all the signals &#8211; then you start to get an idea of the character of a webmaster &#8211; which is really all Google needs to know when deciding how to interpret a shady link. </p>
<p>One detection technique that people seem to be forgetting is this:</p>
<p>1. Look at all the links pointing at xyz.com.<br />
2. Are any of those links obviously paid for? (e.g. listed under &#8220;Sponsored Links&#8221; or linked from several completely off-topic sites &#8211; wedding link on seroundtable, for example)<br />
3. If there&#8217;s even one obviously paid links pointing at a site, that categorizes a webmaster as a link buyer.<br />
4. When flipping a coin (e.g. when Google finds a contextual link with laser-targeted anchor text pointing at a site), Google can use that fact to its advantage.</p>
<p>Also, link sellers can get very sloppy. It&#8217;s a pain in the butt to review a site for approval; sometimes you just want to approve everything to pad your monthly paid link income. So:</p>
<p>1. Look at all outbound links from site A.<br />
2. What percentage of those links point to sites that are categorized as link buyers? If the percentage is high (more than a few links point to link buyers), then the chance of those links being paid links is high.<br />
3. Look at off-topic links to sites with low authority. An editorial link tends to point to sites with high authority, though not always.<br />
4. Investigate the link profile of those off-topic sites. Are they link buyers? If yes, then the chance of these off-topic links being paid is high.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a guessing game, trial by link analysis, and I&#8217;d expect the accuracy rate to never reach 100%, but I also expect Google to err on the side of quality search results (i.e. not on the side of innocent until proven guilty).</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://pocketseo.com/google/110/comment-page-1#comment-347</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that Google will penalize you if you have an affiliate link to a text-link-selling Web site.  But when found in combination with other certain factors it &lt;em&gt;may&lt;/em&gt; be one of the many factors that can help profile a site that sells text links.

Take a look through the inventory of the link selling services&#039; and notice the high number of &quot;make money online&quot; blogs that are full of paid reviews and text links.  Many of them have their affiliate links to text-link sellers right next to a block of paid text links.

It would be hard to know what the exact combination of factors are that Google would use to identify link sellers/buyers without having access to the data in their index.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that Google will penalize you if you have an affiliate link to a text-link-selling Web site.  But when found in combination with other certain factors it <em>may</em> be one of the many factors that can help profile a site that sells text links.</p>
<p>Take a look through the inventory of the link selling services&#8217; and notice the high number of &#8220;make money online&#8221; blogs that are full of paid reviews and text links.  Many of them have their affiliate links to text-link sellers right next to a block of paid text links.</p>
<p>It would be hard to know what the exact combination of factors are that Google would use to identify link sellers/buyers without having access to the data in their index.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Ridout</title>
		<link>http://pocketseo.com/google/110/comment-page-1#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Ridout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting take on the algo - you&#039;re probably not far off although I think the point of linking to &quot;link selling&quot; websites is doubtful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting take on the algo &#8211; you&#8217;re probably not far off although I think the point of linking to &#8220;link selling&#8221; websites is doubtful.</p>
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		<title>By: Eliena Andrews</title>
		<link>http://pocketseo.com/google/110/comment-page-1#comment-344</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliena Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks really nice article. now i know  why my blog (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.visitformoney.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.visitformoney.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;) is out of google search

Eliena Andrews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks really nice article. now i know  why my blog (<a href="http://www.visitformoney.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.visitformoney.blogspot.com</a>) is out of google search</p>
<p>Eliena Andrews</p>
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